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Teaching New Bloggers How to Attribute

April 6, 2005 | RSS | EMAIL | PRINT | 5 COMMENTS

What do you do when you find your writing on someone else's site without a proper attribute? It's a hard thing to deal with. Go take a look at this Firefox 101 post from RSS Blog Secrets. It looks a lot like my Firefox 101 post. On one hand I'm glad that people are enjoying what I'm writing enough to read it, nevertheless copy and post it (remember, imitation is the biggest form of flattery). However, you just can't copy someone's work without any permission and only include a very hard-to-notice link at the top and a little "Thanks to Noah Brier at noahbriar.com" at the bottom. That's not even how you spell my website (or my last name, for that matter)!

Peter Caputa had this problem a few weeks ago when someone copied something he had written and then was linked to by other people. (Full disclosure: I copied the title of Pete's post.) Here's what Pete wrote in that post (note the proper attribution):

But, this new blogger that doesn't know how to quote or attribute other people's original writing. I'll assume that Dominant Princess is new to blogging and is ignorant of acceptable quoting practices. Consider this a hand slap.

On the other hand, however.... Anyone that has attended grade school should know that what she has done is plagiarism. So, I highly recommend to dominant princess that she learns how to quote people and always attributes people's original writing with a link to the original post.

I agree with Pete. I'm not so angry as I am disappointed and to RSS Blog Secrets, consider this a hand slap. I don't mind you keeping a link blog and even posting full text, but you really need to make it clear that those entries your posting are not your own words. I don't publish under a Creative Commons license (although I probably should be), but when I publish something I expect to be properly attributed. Check out Scoble's Link Blog for how to keep a proper link blog (although there are plenty who have problems with that).

There are a couple important points for a site that just reposts other people's work.

1. Make it very clear what you are. Calling yourself a "link blog" is a good example.

2. Include links at the top that make it very clear that this is not your own work.

3. Don't include any of your own words unless you're going to make a clear distinction of where your words end and the work your copying begins.

Hope this clears things up a bit and makes known my feelings on proper attribution techniques.

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1Kathleen

Noah,
as you can imagine, I started to squirm at reading this. "What if he's talking about me?" I wondered, as someone who has quoted from you twice now in recent posts.

I clicked over to reread my most recent you-quoting post to make sure I was OK. Not surprisingly, you'd already been there, saying, "you're welcome" to my thank you.

For you readers, I didn't quote Noah at all in my post. But he pointed me to the article I DID quote from (which was attributed properly). He deserves credit for that, too.

Thanks, Noah, for a consistently thought provoking read! kathleen
http://quixtatic.blogspot.com

April 6, 2005

2Noah Brier

My pleasure Kathleen. Really all I ask is that I get credit for what I have written. I just didn't feel like RSS Blog Secrets made it clear enough that their post was actually my words.

Thanks for the links by the way, I'm glad you're enjoying my writing enough to add your own thoughts. Please don't hesitate to comment over here, either.

April 6, 2005

3Scott Rafer at Feedster

There is now a link to your Firefox 101 post at the top of his entry. Did he add it later?

April 7, 2005

4Noah Brier

No Scott, that was actually there in the first place. To be honest, I didn't notice that the first time, though I did notice it before I wrote this entry and mentioned the "very-hard-to-notice link." Am I overreacting on this? Part of my problem is that the link is so small, it's the same title as the post and is directly followed by his the authors own words, which appear inside quotes, therefore making it hard to tell where his copy ends and mine begins. Then at the end only writing "Thanks to Noah Brier at noahbriar.com" without links or anything doesn't make it explicitly clear that it's actually a copy of what I had written. What are your thoughts?

April 7, 2005

5jeff

I really like the idea of you slapping someone's hand.

April 7, 2005